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igor ludikov was one of the first

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coaches of camilla valley eva after her

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arrival in moscow from her hometown

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kazan it was him who taught her all the

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double jumps and the first triple jumps

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when he himself was just starting his

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coaching journey ludikov told about his

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contribution to the formation of camilla

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and vivid stories illustrating her

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character the coach also analyzed his

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past mistakes and explained where his

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former student got so much strength and

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psychological core

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how and when did you meet camilla it was

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at the beginning of 2014

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at that time i was a choreographer and

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was producing programs for various

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skaters once my former coach marina

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grigor yevnikoodriatseva asked for a

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program for her little student i was

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immediately attracted to the girl

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because she was very stretched and

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glided well that means you can include

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interesting elements and transitions in

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the program i came up with a children's

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program and with it camilla took sixth

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place at the city tournament i remember

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how her mother also was very happy and

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at first i didn't understand why

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also explained that her daughter had

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never had such achievements before

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especially at the level of the capital

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soon marina kriegerevna retired and gave

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me camilla at that time i was just

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getting a permanent coaching job and was

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glad that a colleague entrusted me with

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a talented child did you immediately

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realize that this girl has a great

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future

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let me tell you a couple of illustrative

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stories

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the moscow championship was planned in

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which 50 girls in the younger age

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category planned to participate when we

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were preparing i suggested to camilla to

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learn a double axel the incentive was to

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make a gift to her mom whose birthday

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was in december 23rd just during the

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tournament we learned to jump in the

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shortest time possible as a result

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camilla the youngest of the 50

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participants qualified for a free

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program and made a sensation there with

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the swan program to the music of saint

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sainz later i was jokingly told that the

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association with the name of the

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composer camel helped in one evening 15

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000 people watched the recording of

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camilla's program on the internet at

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that time there was no such boom in

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views especially of such young skaters

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it was a wow camilla proved that she

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knows how to get ready at the right

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moment and she also did a great job

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coping with popularity after a surge of

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the attention she calmly continued to

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work without stardom and now watching

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her interviews i see that her behavior

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is the same as when we work together

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once i punished camilla by mistake a new

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girl came to the group and camilla

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became very jealous when i started

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spending time with her but she tried to

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hide it she just turned away and cried

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one day i asked camilla to show this

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girl how to perform step sequence

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correctly she was perfectly able to do

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them but she showed poorly i understood

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that it was on purpose i got angry asked

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again to demonstrate what we had

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recently learned

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camilla showed even worse clearly out of

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spite i said i'm going to send you

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running 10 laps now we had a stadium

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right next to the rink and it was 15

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degrees outside camilla didn't listen

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and i said you're going to run 20 now

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she became even nastier i was trying to

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intimidate now you're going to finish

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playing and you're going to do 30 laps

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in the end i gave up and went to train

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other students

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an hour later i went outside and saw

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camilla running around the stadium red

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as a tomato

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i called her and asked how many laps did

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you run 26 i said well will you listen

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to the coach now yes i will will you run

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the remaining four laughs as a result an

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eight-year-old child did all 30 laps

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this is a total of 12 kilometers which

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seemed unreal for her age so much

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camilla was persistent and trained i

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realized that this child is a godsend

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for sports

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judging by these examples as a child

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camilla was definitely set up for

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success in professional sports how do

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you think an eight-year-old child had an

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understanding that it was necessary to

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overcome herself so much for results

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i think it's an innate quality it

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happens when there is one super talented

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child in a million

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even at the first joint training

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sessions i noted camilla's hard work and

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determination she attracted others with

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her charm and energy when she skated

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programs other coaches who were present

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at the rink could not take their eyes

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off her the family situation also played

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a role camilla's mom left the

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established life in kazan for the sake

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of her daughter brought her to moscow

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and raised in a strange city alone she

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worked several jobs and gave everything

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for the sake of camilla's development

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they rented an apartment not far from

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the ice rink and camilla almost always

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went everywhere alone my colleagues and

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i sometimes walked the child home

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because also could not pick her up

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during the day she was so young and at

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the same time so adult

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what have you taught camilla in a year

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and a half of work

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i taught her all the double jumps

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including axel by the end of the season

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she was rotating a triple sao cow and we

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already had a triple toe loop at that

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time few of camilla's peers did such

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jumps triples weren't jumped at all to

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this day when i watch rswan i say to

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myself at eight years old children don't

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skate like that

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so small she was doing level three step

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sequence and level four spins a bedouin

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jump i remember how the kind of parents

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of other skaters approached also and

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tried to convince her that her daughter

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was not jumping would not master complex

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elements

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they were saying you're wasting your

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time

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this made me angry and i tried even

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harder to make camilla jump i took her

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to run in manage located next door to

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strengthen her feet she ran for half an

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hour every day

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we also worked a lot on the rope 200 to

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300 double jumps per training session

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simulating jumping on ice

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sometimes the number of jumps reached

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500 as a result camilla began to jump

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well and the kind advisors fell silent

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she also became very musical thanks to

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her jazz classes

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why did camilla leave your group

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oh the parting was very difficult

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it all started with the fact that two

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girls a little older than camilla came

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to the group and began to bully her

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camilla was angry fought back but for

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some reason she hid the problem from me

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at the gathering in tallinn the girls

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had a conflict and camilla attacked her

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group mates

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none of the adults saw how it happened

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and those girls presented the situation

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as if camilla was to blame as if she

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started a fight

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although later it turned out that they

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provoked her themselves

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camilla didn't even try to refute the

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accusations and i spoke to her strictly

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i tried to convey that it's not normal

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to fight

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when we returned to moscow camilla told

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her mother that she no longer wanted to

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study in our team and they asked to join

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natalia dabinski's group i was really

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hurt

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i didn't understand the reason

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everything was on the rise we conquered

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triple jumps progressed and made a lot

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of plans i did everything for camilla

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the relationship was good and then after

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an unexpected fight when we had already

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planned a new training camp in turkey

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the student left it would be fine if

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something didn't work out but camilla

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was at the peak of her form i tried to

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talk i came to the beliefs house

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also didn't understand much either

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because her daughter didn't explain

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anything to her camilla only said that

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she was being insulted but without

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details

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also decided to give the child the right

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to choose and therefore did not push did

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you talk about that afterwards discuss

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the situation heart to heart during the

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first year after the breakup we saw each

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other at the rink because i often

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coached there we communicated coolly but

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still helped each other for example

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somehow natalia petrovna and maria

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casamova could not take camilla to the

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competition and i came there with my

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group i offered camila to take her to

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the competition for the sake of our old

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friendship when there was a joint ice

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session i asked her to show my students

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the rotations that is we both behaved in

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a civilized manner but there was a

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sediment inside

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now as a coach i understand the

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situation after camilla left a lot of

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things became clear but it was too late

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and then i was still a young coach and i

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did not have enough experience

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professional wisdom to guess that the

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reason was not in training and sports

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problems but in bullying i couldn't

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recognize in time what camilla was

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silent about plus it was the first

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departure of a student in whom i put my

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soul therefore i experienced it very

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painfully after camilla left moskvich we

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stopped seeing each other and last

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summer i was walking along the

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embankment and suddenly i met her with a

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dog we hugged talked a little now there

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is no sediment left what was the fate of

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the girls who bullied camilla they then

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quickly left the group in the sport

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because they did not want to work do you

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know what the most interesting thing in

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this story is i took those girls for

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camilla's motivation i thought it was

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hard for her in the role of the only

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elder with no one to reach for it seemed

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to me i would take a few peers and it

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would be more interesting for all of

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them they would be friends but healthy

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competition among children did not work

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out friends only made it worse and

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ruined their own careers what do you

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think of camilla's success in recent

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seasons

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i am very happy for her rotations

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gliding presentation of the program

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musicality all this has been in her for

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a long time and in recent years camilla

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has brought her skills to a new level i

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remember watching the european

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championships at home a month ago and

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saying to myself there are all the

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skaters and there is camilla how in your

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opinion does camilla manage to maintain

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stability the most complex and risky

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content in the world and she almost

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always performs it cleanly this is a

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unique phenomenon i think the secret is

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in the desire and diligence which i

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mentioned above she has been used to

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intense trainings and jogging since

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childhood not every adult can stand 30

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laps in a big stadium

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plus camila is very smart

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i remember once after training she told

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me that she was going to a reading

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lesson i asked what interesting things

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are they teaching you there we read

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poems and stories

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and camilla recited poems to me and my

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colleagues they were long and she read

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with an expression emotionally i thought

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back then wow

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a child but she talks like an adult

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if this child reaches the heights and

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wants to grow in the media plan she will

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not need to go to public speaking

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courses she will be able to work on

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television comment on competitions or

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even host a program she is not afraid

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she performs her diction is gorgeous

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camilla has everything in the complex

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the head and the hands and the legs

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plus she is not a conceited person

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although how many words of admiration

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she hears in her address at every step

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now

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proper behavior is very valuable

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